| Surname: | Carlile |
| Initials: | R W |
| Rank: | Warrant Officer II |
| Army Number: | 2611109 |
| Notes: | CMP. Formerly Grenadier Guards,9/11/30 to Army Reserve. 3/1/40 transferred to CMP. 29/12/45 to discharge.. 14/7/44 Sgt posted from 64 SIS, SIB to 78 SIS, SIB, Ottaviano, Italy. Extracts from Army Record:- He was born 11/10/08 at King's Norton, Birmingham, Warwickshire, He enlisted 7/1/28 at Birmingham, He married Joy Winifred Lewis 9/4/34 at Birmingham, Address Police House, Tapworth, Nr. Birmingham, Occupation Motor Driver. He served Home 7/1/28 to 8/11/30 Army Reserve 9/11/30 to 30/11/39, Mobilized 1/12/39 to 26/3/40, BEF 27/3/40 to 11/5/40, Home 12/6/40 to 18/2/43, North Africa 19/2/43 to 27/9/45, Home 28/9/45 to 28/12/45, Class Z (T) reserve 29/12/45 Discharge Certificate:- 78 Section, SIB. service trade military police, SIB, military conduct exemplary, testimonial:- a conscientious and reliable WO. Of clean and sober habits. Has always worked hard and given of his best. CMF. 14/9/45, Signed DAPM 78 Section SIB. Address:- 47 High Street, Coleshill, Nr. Birmingham, 14/8/48 He was awarded the 1939-1945 Star, Africa Star with 1 army clasp, Italy Star, Defence Medal, War Medal. Address:- 47 High Street, Coleshill, Nr, Birmingham. Robert William Carlile. Extract from the Midland Counties Tribune - Friday 27 November, 1931. ATTLEBORO' LABOUR CLUB STEWARD FINED. ALE SUPPLIED TO A NON-MEMBER. POLICE CRITICISED. Cases against Hiram Alte, steward of the Attleborough Labour Club, for supplying ale to a non member, and for selling by retail ale without a licence, were heard at Nuneaton, Police Court, on Thursday, before Capt. Oliver Bellasis and other magistrates. The action of the police in connection with the cases was severely criticised by Mr C G Teebay, the defending solicitor. Defendant was fined a £1 in each case. Hiram Alton, 17 Garret Street, was summoned for supplying ale in Attleborough Labour Party Club for consumption off the premises, to Robert William Carlile, who was not a member on the premises of the club on November 10, and also for selling by retail ale without a licence. Mr G C Teebay appeared for defendant, who pleaded not guilty. PC Carlile said that at 8.25 pm on Tuesday, November 10 , he was on plain clothes duty with P S Wilmott he went into the main entrance of the Labour Party Club in Garrett Street. He entered the main bar, and saw Alton standing outside the bar and handed him a jug, and said "Half a pint of mild, please", Defendant went behind the counter, and without questioning him at all went to draw the ale from the wood, and said "What sort do you want? Witness said, "Mild Please." He drew the ale and handed it to witness. No question as to whether witness was a member or not was asked him by the defendant. There was no doorkeeper. Witness to the ale and handed it to Sergt. Wilmott. Witness paid 31/2 for the ale. There were four other people in the room. Witness went back to the bar with Sergt, Wilmott and asked Alton to come outside. The Sergeant said they were police officers, and he had just served this man with beer. He said, "I admit serving him. I thought he was a new member." Defendant was steward of the Club. Solicitor and Witness. In reply to Mr Teebay, witness said he went in in old clothes. Mr Teebay: Did you volunteer the information that you were not a member? - Witness: No You know there are over 200 members? - No. Asked by Mr Tebay if he knew he was committing an offence in obtaining the beer and was therefore liable, witness said that had he been tackled or questioned as to whether he was a member he would have immediately said he was not a member and left the bar. Mt Teebay said he was also liable as aiding and abetting. Mr Teebay: You were out to secure a conviction? - Witness: No. You did not worry what means you used in order to secure a conviction? - That is not so. Are not part of your duties to detect crime ? - Yes. Is it none of your duties to engineer the commission of crime ? - No. Can you point to any police regulations that empower you to commit an offence in order to secure a conviction ? - No. P S Wilmott also gave evidence. Painful Case. Mr . Teebay said this was a very painful case. his client had borne an excellent character. He was 47 years of age, married, with three children, and worked at one of the local pits for twenty years. He enlisted in 1915, and was in the Army till 1919, leaving with the rank of Sergeant, It was very sad that a man with a character like that should be brought before the Magistrates for an offence engineered ty the Police. Police Slammed. If there were complaints, it was the duty of the police to have brought summonses in cases about which there had been complaints. it was quite simple to obtain the necessary evidence without the commission of an offence by the police. P C Carlile had defiinitely committed an offence under Section 94, and was guilty of obtaining beer on the premises. he was also guilty of aiding and abetting in the supply of liquor without a licence. There was no statute he could point to which said he was entitled to commit an offence in order to bring a case before the Bench. The true place of the police officers that day was in front of their Worships, in front of the dock. This offence would never have been committed unless the police had engineered it. They provoked a law-abiding man to commit a breach of the peace, and then they pounced upon him for having fallen into a trap. "I do protest against the action of the police in this case, " said Mr Teebay. "It is low down and it is illegal." Defendant was fined £1 in each case, the Chairman remarking that it was gross carelessness on the part of defendant in not asking the man whether he was a member or not. The Bench considered the police should find other methods of finding out the commission of an offence that sending a constable in. |